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| Double taxation...
...nothing new for gov't. I'm sure TN will come after the guy too saying he earned the money in TN.
There is no end to the greed of gov't.
Perhaps they can start taxing those employed in call centers in India.
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jtanner
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Cumming, GA | TN doesn't have state income tax. But it's an interesting point--what happens when someone lives in Massachusetts and telecommutes to NY? Wouldn't they get taxed twice?
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November 1st, @10:35AM
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
NY is one of the greediest states in the country when it comes to taxes. I mean taxed for telecommuting, give me a freakin' break.
I've got a good idea for all these companies. Go set up a data center in Florida. No state income tax. Then they can tel NY to shove it... |
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Ridgeland, MS | reply to oliphant
TN has no state income tax, but I'm sure there are a few "guys" in a smoky back room trying to find a way to get their share too.  |
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said by jtanner  :TN doesn't have state income tax. But it's an interesting point--what happens when someone lives in Massachusetts and telecommutes to NY? Wouldn't they get taxed twice? Jim I live in Maryland. The company I work for is headquartered in Virginia, though they have offices all over the globe.
Whether or not I commute to one of their offices, I pay my taxes to my home state of Maryland. As it happens though, I rarely work from anywhere other than my home. I've been a full-time telecommuter for over 8 years. |
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Mechanicsburg, PA | reply to jtanner
haha living in taxachusetts, i bet they are already being taxed twice.
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Though I agree with telling them to shove it, I am doubtful its smart to put a data center in Florida. Unless you can afford the emergency standby needs from the strain of hurricanes.;)
But this is not the last we'll hear of this. I figure some law professor will open debate in a classroom, and some tech-saavy lawyers will (EFF?) commit to this as unfair taxation.
How about dumping our old CRTs in the Hudson? Or old modems?
(I know, more EPA violations..its pollution)
I had a friend that worked in the city and lived in NJ. He paid BOTH NJ and NYC wage taxes. heck, I worked 1 mile inside Philadelphia and had to pay local borough and philly wage taxes. I would have to pay telecommuting too (as an employee of a company located inside their zone).
Sounds to me like:
-quit the job and consult for them or
-get them to compensate for costs (electricity, systems, cable/WAN connection) if not already
-make salary worth it
(sucks. money you save on commuting, protection to environment and pollution and you still get shafted!) |
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There is no end to the greed of gov't.
Perhaps more precisely, there is no end to the greed of man.
This is, of course, absurd. But I think the entire U.S. tax system, on the federal and state level, is a dirty kid in the mud that needs to be cleaned up again like he was in 1986. |
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November 1st, @11:17AM
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This is GREAT NEWS!!! - maybe now all those outsourced jobs in India and China get to pay US taxes -- so we can retire! (hey - "freedom is on the march" -- better pay up!)
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Amazingly enough, 'taxachusetts' has fewer taxes than many other states (including CT), and tac-free shopping is just a run up the highway in New Hampshire!!
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How dare you cheat Virginia out of their income tax? 
And what about all the gas you are not using? Doesn't Maryland deserve their massive gas tax too? :D:D
This could get ugly as how many people tele-commute from other states? How many people want to be taxed twice? Or, how about being taxed in every state where your company has a location in?  |
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oliphant
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said by jtanner :TN doesn't have state income tax. Jim My bad, I thought I remembered some whooplah about them starting it a year or two ago. But still, TN gets their revenue some someplace whether it's higher property tax, sales tax or whatever. If you are taxed by another state it's double taxation unless TN doesn't collect any revenue from the general public at all.
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said by gbrown759 :TN has no state income tax, but I'm sure there are a few "guys" in a smoky back room trying to find a way to get their share too. They're getting the revenue somewhere...if they aren't directly taxing income then it's coming from property tax or something else. They guy still ends up paying twice.
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I live in PA. I used to telecommute to a Boulder, CO division of a French (well, worldwide) company. I now telecommute to a Boston, MA division of a California (well, worldwide) company. In both cases they deducted local (ie CO/MA) income tax the first month, then (presumably, after checking with their tax department) refunded it and deducted PA income tax from that point on.
New York is very creative about taxing people, though, so I've to say I'm not surprised. I remember filling out NY state non-resident returns back when that stuff was done with pen and paper. It was worse than the federal form - they basically make you do something like federal income tax twice, first time to determine total income, the second time to determine NY income. They use total income to determine your tax rate. Then, of course, there's NYC tax as well.
The short-term solution is to make sure this is built into your salary. A better solution is to work elsewhere and enjoy NYC on weekends. They'll figure a different way to rip you off, but at leats it's less paperwork that way. |
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said by moonpuppy :How dare you cheat Virginia out of their income tax? And what about all the gas you are not using? Doesn't Maryland deserve their massive gas tax too? :D:D This could get ugly as how many people tele-commute from other states? How many people want to be taxed twice? Or, how about being taxed in every state where your company has a location in? I think I'll just take half my salary and donate it to the county and the state so they can build more roads for the traditional commuters. Then I'll take the other half of my salary and spread it around to all the states where the company I work for has offices: California, District of Columbia, Massachusetts, New York (gasp!), North Carolina, Oklahoma, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia. I'll be sure to reserve some for my home state: Maryland.
Too bad there will be nothing left to donate to the other countries where the company I work for has offices: Brazil, Canada, India, Russia, United Kingdom. If there were, I could help provide health care and retirement income for those who live in countries where the government subsidizes those services.
Who needs disposable income anyway? |
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| I fear them pressing this issue more. If so I and a lot of people will be hurting.
I vpn into networks in 5 or 6 countries plus ones in almost all 50 states. Just this morning I vpned into Pa. Ny. Nh. RI. Conn. Ne. and Fl. , does this mean under this the whole slew of them have the ability to chase me down for taxes ? If so Ma. where i actually live is gonna be screwed on my taxes.
Greed has no bounds I guess. Start taxing the people who are outsourced to other countries. Because then that will drive up their cost as well and maybe the work will come back to North America.
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Shhh. they start moving around here and rent will go even more. |
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Idjk
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Just what I was thinking tax all the 'outsourced' jobs!!it might bring some jobs back. |
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All of those reading these posts concerned with the truth about the Income Tax should read a small book called
Cracking the Code, The Fascinating Truth About Taxation in America by Peter Hendrickson (www.losthorizons.com)
The truth about our Tennessee telecommuter is that he is not liable to ANY INCOME TAX AT ALL (Federal or State).
I wish you the best in your efforts to live a more free and truthful life.
Patrick Mooney
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| said by morethanhuman :
All of those reading these posts concerned with the truth about the Income Tax should read a small book called
Cracking the Code, The Fascinating Truth About Taxation in America by Peter Hendrickson (www.losthorizons.com)
The truth about our Tennessee telecommuter is that he is not liable to ANY INCOME TAX AT ALL (Federal or State).
I wish you the best in your efforts to live a more free and truthful life.
Patrick Mooney
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